SMAC250 737 Max Analysis with Ben Bohlman Part 3 Ethiopian 302

737 Max

Welcome to the show about learning to fly, living to fly, and loving to fly. Today we start a special series on the 737 Max. Although a general aviation podcast we feel this is an important topic which all aviators can learn valuable lessons from. Joining me today is Ben Bohlman and Justin Ash.

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Cruise Flight (Talking Points): 

  • Ethiopian 302
  • Asked to turn on autopilot but it wouldn’t due to excessive control forces (5lb pitch 3lb roll) 
  • Once the autopilot was engaged, it was left on Command A (the failed side) which resulted in flight control issues due to erroneous AOA values, i.e. the Autopilot accelerated to what it thought was the minimum control speed, which was abnormally high due to the failed AOA sensor. 
  • Autopilot automatically disconnected after 32 seconds due to the airspeed being too low relative to the computed minimum operating speed. 
  • MCAS began as the autopilot disconnected and the flaps reached the 0 position.
  • Autothrottles remained in ARM mode as they were receiving erroneous AOA data. This meant they were effectively at full climb power.
  • The crew repeatedly counteracted the MCAS inputs but did not match the trim run time of the MCAS, resulting in ever-increasing control forces
  • After realizing the continuously running trim, the crew disconnected the electric stabilizer trim, effectively terminating the MCAS involvement
  • Due to excessive control forces (around 80-110lbs for the remainder of the flight), the crew was unable to actuate the manual trim.
  • After a few minutes, the crew turned the electric trim back on in an attempt to retrim the aircraft, but while they did trim the aircraft manually, it also allowed the MCAS system to start trimming again “in the gaps”, which it did for much longer than the manual inputs, effectively worsening the situation. 
  • Crash occurred at 500kts, 40 degrees nose down, and 33,000fpm down
  • At the time when the crew attempted to move the manual trim, it would have taken 40 complete rotations of the trim wheel to return to hands-off control forces.
  • AOA vane never failed, just the heating portion, which is why it showed a rapid then gradual increase as it “drifted”.  Because the AOA resolvers never failed, SPD and ALT flags never showed on the LH PFD.
  • The minimum operating speed values were higher than the maximum speed limits, and the stick shaker value was higher than the MMO of the aircraft (.82).

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SMAC249 The Real Cost Of Airplane Ownership and Some Creative Options to Owning.

Airplane Ownership

Welcome to the show about learning to fly, living to fly, and loving to fly. Recently, Carl returned the plane to the person he was leasing it from and is now between planes. Putting emotions aside we reflect on the real cost of ownership and how you can feel like an owner in some creative ways. 

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Cruise Flight (Talking Points)

  • Carl regains his multi engine currency….what fun!
  • Update from episode 247 concerning the rule of thumb for climb gradient and rate of climb.
  • Carl says goodbye to the Cherokee and on to the next adventure.
  • Putting emotions aside….who am I kidding.
  • The feeling you get from owning.
  • The real cost of airplane ownership. 
  • Insurance.
  • Ancillary costs.
    • Hangar
    • Airplane Wash
    • Fridge
    • Couch
    • Beverages for Fridge.
    • Decorations.
    • Headsets.
    • Bags for inside the plane….
    • Tugs.
    • Tools.
  • The benefits of ownership.
    • Clean plane.
    • No one moves your stuff.
    • Intimate knowledge of the plane.
  • Challenges of ownership.
    • Maintenance
    • Payments
  • Clubs, Partnerships, and sole ownership.
  • Leaseback.
  • When it is time to let go.
  • Flying Other Peoples Planes.
  • Become a CFI and teach people in their planes.
  • The opportunities we get to fly planes because we are a CFI.
  • Rent a plane.

After Landing Checklist:

Picks Of The Week:

Carl – Mike Busch on Airplane Ownership (Volume 1): What every aircraft owner needs to know about selecting, purchasing, insuring, maintaining, troubleshooting, modifying, and flying light airplanes https://amzn.to/321xTYM

Victoria – Aircraft Bluebook Valuation https://air-pros.com/aircraft-valuation/

Bill – Flying Circus: https://www.flyingcircusairshow.com/

Russ – Kindle Unlimited: https://www.amazon.com/gp/kindle/ku/sign-up

Sean – Airborne Films: https://www.airbornefilms.com

Rick – YoungEagles.org 

Links Mentioned In This Podcast:

https://expertaviator.com/2011/02/03/departure-procedure-climb-gradient-and-calculating-your-rate-of-climb/